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Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Always Learning » Monday August 25th, 2008 2:53 pm MDT

Hi,
I am new here; and, am still digesting all of the amazing information on this website. I am interested in knowing whether anyone here knows whether anyone is currently running in WA state for these three positions. I would consider running if no one is, but probably will not if there are. I am also not sure whether I would have to be a free landowner (as is required to be an elector, as I understand it) in order to run. In which case, I wouldn't be able to. I am also wondering if there is a cut-off date for those who do decide to run.
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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Geibes » Wednesday August 27th, 2008 7:38 am MDT

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You may want to check out the Governor's Corner on Team Law's main web site. It looks like Washington will be needing a new governor.
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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Brian » Wednesday October 8th, 2008 10:13 am MDT

Howdy folks

What is the voting procedure after proving land owner ship by Land Patent Records?
In the Washington Republic how many true land patent holders are their?
Are they participating in the elections?
Are their any other forums for learning more about the Original Republic?
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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Citizensoldier » Saturday October 11th, 2008 10:26 pm MDT

Brian,

Teamlaw's website is a great place to start learning about the original jurisdiction government. It not only presents a historical outline of this nation, but also points out online resources and recommended reading for research. The local law library (or library) isn't too shabby either.

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Always Learning » Tuesday October 14th, 2008 12:02 pm MDT

Hi Brian,
By looking at the form to fill out on the Governor's Corner for WA State, it doesn't seem that you have to prove anything about your land ownership, just provide an address. I, as the name implies, am still learning, but my understanding at this time is that you don't have to have the documents described on this site to be the true land owner by land patent. It is implied. What is important is being able to prove such in a court of law, if necessary, by having the land patent sandwich talked about on this website, as such documentation has held up in every appellate court case known.

If you are a landowner, and are interested in running as WA State Governor, I would suggest you download the proper forms and follow the instructions shown from the WA State link on the Governor's Corner page of this site.
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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Admin » Tuesday October 14th, 2008 1:59 pm MDT

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We appreciate the responses posted by Citizensoldier and Always Learning. Still, we noticed that their answers did not directly answer your inquiry. Therefore, perhaps our response will still be of aid in your understanding these important matters. Our point-by-point response follows:

The requirements for participation in elections in any State in the Union of States is defined in the State Constitution and or in the State’s statutes. Thus, anyone can go to those documents (the State Constitution and State Statutes) to find those requirements, which requirements shall remain the controlling requirements in any challenge of the electoral privilege in any State.

At Team Law we stick to the original definition of an Elector as it existed at the time our Constitutional Republic was formed, that being, ‘by definition, an Elector is a Land Owner.’ We continue to believe this is an important matter because the Governor of a State bears the privilege and responsibility of granting Land by patent from the State to those that may acquire it; thus, it seems, such a responsibility cannot be fully understood by someone that has no Land of their own. It thus seems elemental to the requirements of residence in a State that such residence should require an electoral right (right a landowner possesses to participate in the control of the State). Accordingly, we only support landowners in our push to reseat the original jurisdiction government.

So far as we are aware, virtually all of the occupied land in Washington State is secured by Land Patent. Thus, all landowners in Washington are land patent secured landowners, whether they are aware of that and have accepted that fact or not.

We do not understand any relevance to your inquiry regarding the number of participants in the elections. That issue escapes us for several reasons:
  1. The election is provided for in law, regardless of the number of participants.
  2. Elections in a Constitutional Republic follow the democratic process, which means that the person that wins the most votes wins, regardless of the total number of votes.
  3. That means in every election, only one vote is required to win; whether that one vote is the only vote or it is the one that gives the candidate one more than anyone else got.
  4. Thus, though the law cannot force people to participate in an election; only one person participates, that person’s electoral vote will be enough to carry the election for all.
Still, we do understand the question and provide the following as a reason for the lack of participation one may witness in any state in the union. We expect that most of the Electors in Washington State (or anywhere else) are like most people in our country; they are busy with their lives and have paid no attention either to the law or to elections. After they finish with their “public education”, they go on to get their opinions of current events from reports in the news media. If you ask them, they will tell you, “You cannot believe what you hear in the media.” Still, that is where virtually everything they think they know comes from. If you inquire of them, they will each tell you they have a driver’s license and a Social Security number; even though the facts prove otherwise. None of them will have ever considered what any of that means, unless some event has caused them to take a second look at the relationships involved. Even then, they will continue to think and say that the driver’s license and Social Security number are theirs. Though many of them will acknowledge they are individually sovereign, only rarely will any have reviewed the Social Security relationship sufficiently to acknowledge (from its inception) it has always been a separate trust. Those rare individuals may have even recognized, it was that trust that was licensed to drive, not them personally. The rest of the people (by their ignorant admissions) will likely be operating in the capacity of general partners with such trusts, as if they were mere chattel property of the Corporate State. Thus, no, they do not participate in the original jurisdiction government’s elections, because they are not aware of them.

You are now reviewing the only forum we are aware of regarding the Original Republic. So far as we are aware, Team Law and the Way of Kings™ are the only places where anyone actually pays attention to such matters. Team Law as the source for educational support regarding law, its language and history and the Way of Kings™ as a source for asset protection system that function both in original jurisdiction and in the Corp. U.S. system with God’s laws as the control. Thus, it is so important for people to spread the word to others. Don’t try to explain it all to them, just give them enough information to inspire their coming to us to read and discover for themselves the truth.

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Always Learning » Tuesday October 14th, 2008 3:08 pm MDT

OK, so:
At, Washington State Constitution, Article VI, Section 1, the Legislature wrote:SECTION 1 QUALIFICATIONS OF ELECTORS. All persons of the age of eighteen years or over who are citizens of the United States and who have lived in the state, county, and precinct thirty days immediately preceding the election at which they offer to vote, except those disqualified by Article VI, section 3 of this Constitution, shall be entitled to vote at all elections.
By these definitions, I see no requirement of a resident of Washington State to be a Land Owner in order to run as Governor of said state.

Admin wrote:We continue to believe this is an important matter because the Governor of a State bears the privilege and responsibility of granting Land by patent from the State to those that may acquire it...
I seem to remember reading on your website that with the exception of Texas, all states that were admitted to the Union ceded all public lands not privately owned to the United States to be held in trust until otherwise claimed by its citizens. How could the Governor of that state grant land if it has been ceded to the United States?

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Admin » Thursday October 16th, 2008 9:41 am MDT

:h: Always Learning:
Your quote from the Corp. State’s Constitution relates to Corp. U.S. “citizens” capable of registering to vote in Corp. State and Corp. U.S. elections. However, that has nothing to do with the State’s qualifications either to serve as governor of the Corp. State or of the original jurisdiction government. The qualifications for serving in the capacity of Governor are different from the qualifications to vote in popular elections.

Regarding Land Grants from states: In the original 13 states, any Land that was not privately owned was acknowledged as being land the State had control over and was available for the State to grant or sell in accord with its legislative intent. In all of the States that have subsequently joined the Union, a portion of the land in each Township is set apart for the State and granted to it for schools, etc. The states then can dispense with those lands or hold them according to the State’s legislative intent; thus, such land is available for the State to Grant as was noted.

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Always Learning » Thursday October 16th, 2008 1:18 pm MDT

Thank you for the reply. This is interesting. So I was reading the Corp. State's Constitution? OK. So doing a little more research, I discovered that WA State was admitted to the Union as the Nation's 42nd State on November 11th, 1889, which I assume is the Original Jurisdiction State, correct? This was preceded by 75 elected delegates who framed and wrote Washington's State Constitution from July 4th to August 23rd, 1889, which was ratified on October 1st, 1889.

So, looking at a photocopy of this original Constitution, it says (in poorly written handwriting) regarding the qualifications to be Governor of Washington State:
At, Washington State Constitution, Article III, 'The Executive', Section 25, the Legislature wrote:No person, except a citizen of the United States and a qualified elector of this State, shall be eligible to hold any State office...

The definition of an Elector under the Washington State Constitution of 1889 is as follows:
At, Washington State Constitution, Article VI, 'Elections and Elective Rights', Section 1, the Legislature wrote:All male persons of the age of twenty-one years or over, possessing the following qualifications, shall be entitled to vote at all elections: They shall be citizens of the United States; They shall have lived in the State for one year, and in the county ninety days, and in the city, town, ward or precinct thirty days immediately preceding the election at which they offer to vote.

So as I see it, there are only two questions: One, is this the Constitution of the Original Jurisdiction Washington State? And two, what is the definition--or qualification--of a citizen of the United States?

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Admin » Thursday October 16th, 2008 3:24 pm MDT

:h: Always Learning:
It sounds like you may now be quoting from the original jurisdiction Washington State Constitution; however, you will also want to be aware of any changes that may have been made in it between its origin and around 1962/1968. As we have repeatedly noted, even in this topical thread, the State Constitution is not the only controlling law; the statutes also control elections to the extent that they are not in conflict with the Constitution of the State or the Constitution of the United States of America:
Admin wrote:The requirements for participation in elections in any State in the Union of States is defined in the State Constitution and or in the State’s statutes. Thus, anyone can go to those documents (the State Constitution and State Statutes) to find those requirements, which requirements shall remain the controlling requirements in any challenge of the electoral privilege in any State.
Thus, you will also want to make sure your are in compliance with both the State Constitution and the timely set original jurisdiction State Statutes. Any person that can qualify by those two controlling sets of law can be elected. Though we still prefer to support landowners for the reasons we stated, we would rather see and support any person that can qualify for the office, in accord with the law, than to see the seat go vacant.

We are pleased that you are now actually studying the law and its history in the State. That is the most important thing for all of us; but it is especially necessary for any person that desires to run for the Governor’s Office in any State. Thus, we also leave your second question from your last post to you to discover. “What is a “Citizen of the United States of America”. Also, you may ask yourself if there any difference between the following:
  1. Citizen of the United States of America
  2. citizen of the United States of America
  3. Citizen of the United States
  4. citizen of the United States
You will find the answer to this question is revealed with a knowledge of English grammar, history and the context of each phrase’s usage.

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Always Learning » Monday October 27th, 2008 3:00 pm MDT

Well, I have looked wherever I could, and could not find the differences in meaning between Citizen and citizen.[hr][/hr] :h: Inserted by Admin: This comment and all words in red in this post were added by Admin to instantaneously respond and not otherwise interrupt the topical thread.

The difference is simply the spelling of a proper noun (with its initial letter capitalized) versus a common noun (with its initial letter in lower case)
  • A proper noun is a specific person, place of thing.
  • A common noun is a general is not a specific person place or thing and may include many or refer to the common nature of the person, place or thing.
Thus, the usage of the proper noun, “Citizen”, in the Constitution refers to a specific individual person, place or thing or to their nature. Such usage can apply to many when used in common with language like, “any Citizen”. The word “any” makes it clear that the sentence is referring to a single or individual “Citizen” and that it applies to every single such person that may exist. The proper noun usage enforces that factual application.
[hr][/hr]I would assume that the differences between United States, and United States of America is the difference between the corporate entity, and the actual original jurisdiction government, respectively. In any case, having been born in this lifetime in California State in 1971, I believe I am a Citizen of the United States of America by birthright; and, having lived in Washington State for at least one year, as prescribed in the Original Washington State Constitution of 1889, qualifies me to run as the Original Jurisdiction Governor of Washington. [hr][/hr]As we before noted, that opinion depends on the laws of Washington State and the support of its electors. For us at Team Law, we prefer to support “electors” using the original definition of the word that was in place at the foundation of this nation. Therefore, though we appreciate your willingness to run for the original jurisdiction office (it needs to be filled in this election) and the work and research you have done to make yourself aware of the necessity to fill the office. We would rather support someone whom was actually born in Washington State and whom is an inherent landowner there. Thus, our support goes to Larry Kennaugh and his bid for the candidacy. Had there been no other candidate so worthy, we would certainly have given you our support. We have known Larry for over ten years and believe him to be a well studied worthy candidate and the most qualified for the office that has presented himself with a willingness to serve. We hope you will also willingly provide your support for his candidacy as you indicated you would if there was another person more qualified for the office.[hr][/hr]
Team Law wrote:…the Governor of a State bears the privilege and responsibility of granting Land by patent from the State to those that may acquire it…
Even though only a small portion (one Section?) of each Township was granted to each state by the United States of America when it joined the union, and part of that land was to be used for schools, etc., would the Original Jurisdiction Governor of such state be able to grant and make patent land to Citizens in that state, much in the same manner as the Original Jurisdiction president did earlier in our history? I have looked through both the Washington State Constitution of 1889 as well as the State Statutes, and have not been able to find any laws regarding this. [hr][/hr]The fact that you needed to ask your last question is an example of why we prefer to support electors as they were defined originally in this nation. such a person is by definition a landowner and accordingly they generally know how (or should know) how land rights work and why. The likely reason you did not find that answer in the research you described is it is an inherent right that belongs to any sovereign landowner. Thus, when the chief executive of a nation or State has the sovereign right to execute the grant of Land within their venue, they can secure that Grant by patent as a matter of natural right; thus, the Land Patent. This right passes to the Governors of the original jurisdiction states because of the collective sovereignty the State holds in behalf of the People of the State, in accord with the various acts of the State. :t^: [hr][/hr]By the way, if anyone wishes to read the Original Washington State Constitution of 1889, they may look at page-by-page photographs of it at this link: Washington State Constitution. ~Craig.

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Landreen » Tuesday October 28th, 2008 4:11 pm MDT

Hello Team Law, and Team Law Beneficiaries,

I believe I may be in position to offer my services to the Governor position of Washington. I seem to meet the qualifications, and have spent the past seventeen years living and breathing the freedom that our Constitution recognizes and tries to insure.

I have gone so far in the past two years to actually write a book on the subjects at hand, and call it the Guide for the Disgruntled American. At present it is close to 60 chapters, and 300 pages of information that I have compiled over the many years of study. The most factual information has been gleaned from Team Law and its Trustee through the years. Like many other patriotic minded Americans I have had to unlearn much of what I thought was true in the past, and it has sometimes been difficult. However I can easily admit when I am in error and repent without letting ego get in the way of what is right. I have tried to verify the information in my Guide by actually studying the material myself.

I have been associated with Team Law's Trustee , for about ten years, and I believe after thousands of hours of work I seem to have a pretty clear grasp of the truth, and understanding of what Team Law has presented. And, I admit, their information is the best anywhere, and even give them credit in my Guide.

By the way, my book is not yet on the market however, and I have had numerous setbacks finding a qualified Internet marketing specialists to assist me. I'm very close however, and my goal is to create a commercial product to compliment what Team Law has so well provided.

The primary reason I would consider the Governor position is, I believe very strongly that it is imperative that we restore our organic Constitutional government, and I'm willing to do my part.

I welcome any comments and questions from anyone.

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Admin » Monday November 10th, 2008 10:35 am MST

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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Scot » Monday August 23rd, 2010 12:30 pm MDT

Dear Larry, and any other Washington State Citizens,
I live in Skamania County, and I am looking for other people to network with about original jurisdiction elections. I would also like to inform you that our county sheriff is extremely concerned for the Republic and has met with me several times to learn the difference and relationship of the Corp US to the republic. He is ready to support the Republic, but lacks the education to do so confidently. My sheriff, David Brown, is also the president of the Western States Sheriff's Association.
I observe that there have not been any posts for a long time, so I wonder if things are still moving forward. If anyone who sees this message would like to contact me, I would be most appreciative to meet other Citizens in Washington State, especially if you are in or near Skamania County in Southern Washington. I've lived in the state for twenty years and own a small organic farm about seventeen miles from Stevenson, the county seat.
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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Admin » Thursday August 26th, 2010 12:24 pm MDT

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Thank you for your inquiry.
The nature of Team Law’s service is perfectly appointed to people regardless of their occupation or potential service in any office. Our services are available worldwide to anyone that can use a phone and/or the internet. Thus, when anyone has any interest in learning how to learn and or properly apply the law, we can help them accomplish their intended outcome.

Accordingly, if your Sheriff has an interest in learning more about the Constitutional Republic and or about the proper application and or control of republic forms of government that is constitutionally required within each of the States in the Union of States of the United States of America, you have found the right place in Team Law. We believe our service is unique and are aware of no other service that can remotely provide what Team Law provides its beneficiaries; that being, the resources to provide anyone with a desire to learn (and do the requisite work necessary to acquire the outcome) the means for assuring that they learn how to learn the law correctly; so, they can properly apply the law.

You noticed that though new posts are posted on our forum every week, they don’t come as quickly now as they did in the past. That is primarily because of two factors:
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Thus, now when people come to read our forum, they find their general answers and their needs are more personal; so, instead of posting their inquiries on the Open Forum they send their personal inquiries to Admin; where they receive their answers in private.

Also, with open access to Team Law’s Open Forum you cannot see the activity on the Beneficiary’s Private Forum or on the Governor’s Private Forum. Thus, the answer to your inquiry regarding the movement of our work is: “Yes the work continues and is more active now than ever; which trend we expect to continue.”

Though Team Law supports local meetings of groups, the nature of Team Law’s services (being personal self-education oriented) and the availability of the internet and free nationwide phone service has, for the most part, caused local meeting groups to be a thing of the past. Still, we can help, anyone that desires to do so, start local group meetings. We are also willing to come and hold seminars where people can get a taste of the kind of work we do and how we can help; which is the single best way to kick off a local meeting group. All you need to do to do get such a thing going is call our Trustee during his call times and he will be able to help you accomplish your desires.

Also, we personally thank you for going to the effort necessary to run an organic farm! Following an organic way of life has even saved my life. Some people think it is more expensive to eat organically; but. I personally believe that is not the case. The money saved in needing far less food and in not having medical expenses well compensates for the additional cost of buying organic foods. You certainly have our full support in that effort.

Though this is totally off-point:
    Another thing that likely saved my life is ProArgi-9. I started having regular and even severe heart pains (angina) and cardiac care professionals were telling me if I didn’t get on medications to control that I would soon be a goner. However, I’m not into medications or even dietary supplements; then my wife (Roxanna) got me to try ProArgi-9 and the nearly constant pain disappeared in two days! Not only that, but after a couple months of using ProArgi-9 , tests now show my circulatory system appears 20 years younger than me.
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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Scot » Thursday January 20th, 2011 3:04 pm MST

:cheers: Hello Fellow Washington State Citizens and Team Law Admin,
Our County Sheriff is the president of the Western States Sheriff's Association and he is learning about the Law as we speak. He has a way to go, but he is open minded and understands the difference between a federal citizen and a State Citizen. I know, we're all still learning.
I'd like to get Washington on the Team Law map.
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Re: Washington State Governor and Senators

Postby Admin » Friday March 11th, 2011 10:03 am MST

:h: Scot:
The best way of helping people awaken to the necessities of learning the law firsthand, so they can properly apply the law, is direct them to a particular page on TeamLaw.net. The best way to know which page would serve you best for that purpose is, be familiar with Team Law’s website; so, when an issue comes up, you can direct people to the appropriate page(s) where the information Team Law so provides can help them discover the necessity for their further study.

Though we all need to so learn the law, no one among us can have a greater need than those that have been called upon by the people to serve as Sheriff. The nature of the Sheriff’s Office is such that the Sheriff is supposed to be the peoples’ protector. The office originally comes from the office of “Reeve”, which in old Great Britain was a Shire (county) official appointed by the King. In other words, the Sheriff executed the will of the King (Sovereign) in accord with the laws of the county.

In the United States of America there is no sovereign outside of the people themselves. This is a nation of sovereigns. The people, as sovereigns, come together to grant a limited portion of their individual sovereign authority to the collectively form governments for the purpose of lawfully securing their Liberty and Property. Accordingly, the governments so formed bear the limited collective sovereign authority so granted to them. Thus, within the county government, the Sheriff’s Office is imbued with the peoples’ authority to secure their Liberty and Property through the proper application of the law.

Thus, the Sheriff is supposed to be an officer of the people; secured in that office to administer the law for the people. As such, a principle requirement of that office is to protect the people from the government becoming authoritarian in its nature. An authoritarian government is one that assumes authority in and of itself external to the lawful limitation of powers granted to it under its constitutional construction. Thus, in the United States of America, where all authority in government comes from the people, when any body of government takes upon itself a power or authority not lawfully granted to it by the people, that body of government has taken upon itself unlawful authoritarian powers it cannot lawfully possess. Accordingly, the Sheriff is poised to preserve the people from such authoritarian powers. However, the Sheriff cannot perform that function if the Sheriff does not know the law.

In your case, having a Sheriff who is in a position of influencing other Sheriffs can be a great thing if he actually does learn the necessity for learning the law to apply it. Of course, in our world today, the sheriffs do not typically know the law. Just like Law School trained attorneys, they are so immersed in the application of the current body of statutory law that they have forgotten that no one can possibly understand such statutes if they do not first understand their foundation and history.

For example:
    Since the formation of the Constitutional Republic known as the United States of America, each State in the Union of States was formed with an Enabling Act that limits the State in its formation from creating any law repugnant to the principles of the Constitution of the United States of America. Further, the first and foremost principle of said Constitution is that it was formed to preserve the Liberty of the people. Liberty is defined as: “The people’s right to take their property and publicly or privately come and go as they please without interference from government.” However, most states have generated driver’s license requirements related to driving cars and other motor vehicles. By definition a License provides permission to do that which would otherwise be illegal. Thus, right of Liberty preserved both by the State’s Enabling Act and by the 9th and 10th Articles of Amendment from the nation’s Constitution prohibit the State from composing such a statute that would control the private people’s use of their own private property. Accordingly, State driver’s license statutes cannot lawfully be used in that manner. To do so would be a purely authoritarian form of power. Again, the people do not possess such a power that they could have possibly granted the government.
We will not here go into the lawful applications of such driver’s licenses are and how they can have lawful effect; because, that level of support would require Team Law beneficiary support. However, we can point out the fact that it is generally the Sheriff’s responsibility to protect the people from the abusive application of such statutes. Another such statute the State cannot lawfully possess any right to control is the God given right of marriage. Marriage by definition is given by agreement between the proposed spouses and consent of the father of the bride. Though any man or woman can lawfully agree to and consent to marriage, no man can possess the right to limit any other man from how, when or whether that other man shall marry. Thus, the people do not possess the lawful authority to grant government the authority to license marriages. Accordingly, if any State has a requirement for licensed marriages that presupposed requirement cannot be lawful and must be an authoritarian provision having no lawful basis.

Thus, it would be becoming upon the Sheriff to stand against the unlawful application of such authoritarian provisions of law. An example of a Sheriff so standing was provided by Sheriff Richard Mack (from Arizona) when he (and others) stood against an unlawful gun control law Congress passed. He had to take the matter to the United States Supreme Court; and, in the end, he did prevail.

How could any Sheriff perform such a duty if he was unaware of the law and its limitations? They could not.

As for getting Washington on the “Team Law map”, we are unaware of any such map. If you were referring to the map on the Governor’s Corner page, Washington is on that map. If you were referring to Team Law having beneficiaries in Washington, we have many. If, however, you were referring to Washington State becoming more of a moving force in helping to re-secure our nation in law, that is always welcome and we are pleased with your support. Please continue to do all you can to help the people awaken to the necessity of learning the law firsthand from their own independent study or the law and its history from original sources. As you do, you will continue to be an integral part of that movement. Team Law can help. In fact, that is the very essence of what we do. We help people learn how to learn the law firsthand from its source.

We hope this information is helpful to you.
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