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Congressional Power

Postby Boswell1964 » Thursday March 15th, 2007 2:37 pm MDT

I am not totally knowledgable on The Constitution of the United States or the Bill of Rights, but I do question the Corp US's right to make resolutions that limit the President's ability to control our military. It seems to me that the congress has no such power to limit the power of the Commander and Chief of our military. Is this just another corp US misuse of power to limit the power of the original Constitution of the United States? Maybe to limit the power of the people over the original jurisdiction through amendments to the Constitution of the United States by trying to enforce a resolution with no power in and of itself?

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Re: Congressional Power

Postby Admin » Thursday March 15th, 2007 10:36 pm MDT

:h: Boswell1964:
We addressed the nature of the capacity of that capacity at this link: Commander in Chief. Though, the Commander in Chief has control over our military, Corp. U.S.’ Congress does have controls it can exercise over its chief executive and there is enough muck in what he has done that if he did not want to operate within the constraints they attempt to place on him, they could make his life miserable. We are actually quite pleased that anyone is willing to stand up to him and do anything to curtail the atrocities he has been the sponsor of.

The real solution is to wake the people of our country up to discover the necessity of reseating our original jurisdiction Constitutional Republic government and get our nation back on the side of morality, honor and justice under the control of the Constitution of the United States of America.

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Thankyou!

Postby Boswell1964 » Friday March 16th, 2007 7:35 pm MDT

Thankyou for telling me where to start learning more! Much appreciated.

Just one point in this matter. If Congress begins to take on powers that are not given to them in The Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights then what other powers will they take away from other branches of government in the corp that are not theirs to take?

If the president declared himself supreme leader in this country, declared that there would never be another presidential election ever again in this country, that would outrage the people of the country. That is not within his powers, as I understand it. Although, the Constitution of the United States gives him more powers in some areas, it also limits his abilities through congress's control of the finances.

So, just like freedom of speech, if we make concessions in one area, we are affecting other areas. We may not like the content of the freedom of speech, but by limiting one kind of freedom of speech, are we not also limiting freedom of speech in general?

Doesn't that same principle apply in government responsibilities described in the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights? By giving Congress Powers they do not have also affect their ability to take other powers? Does this affect other branches of government which want to take on powers they do not have the right to take? Where does it stop, if we let one branch operate out of the capacity, as outlined by the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights, how many other branches will want the same ability?

Thankyou again for giving me an idea as where to start learning more about this topic.

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Postby Aerochu » Tuesday March 20th, 2007 9:30 am MDT

It seems to me that it is the president who has usurped the powers that you're talking about. Only Congress can declare war, and no such declaration has been passed down since the days after Pearl Harbor was struck. When the President sends troops into sovereign nations, deposes the government, and installs puppet leaders, he has made war. No one even tries to mince words these days, like they did with the Vietnam "Police Action". To everyone who talks about it, it's the Iraq War.

And besides, it was Congress that authorized the President to go in and enforce U.N. Resolutions, so Congress has every ability to rescind such authorization. Of course, the much-heralded "Power of the Purse" also belongs to Congress, in the House of Representatives. They could cut off any and all money to the President for his little crusade.

So I would say that you're wrong about Congress taking powers not delegated to them. It is the President that has done such, and Congress is supposedly (although I don't think actually) trying to take those powers back. I believe the President's power as Commander in Chief simply gives him ultimate decision over military personnel. Whether or not he has anything to decide is up to Congress.

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Postby Geibes » Wednesday March 21st, 2007 5:48 am MDT

Couple of things to keep in mind:

1. There are only a few (if any) original jurisdiction members of Congress in place so even if they wanted to declare war, they probably couldn't.
2. The Commander in Chief is the civilian George Bush - see the link for an explanation. He has no relationship (that I am aware of) to the original jurisdiction government.
3. That having been said, Abraham Lincoln (original jurisdiction President) declared Martial Law which I don't think was ever cancelled. The United States has been "at war" since the 1860s so
Admin in Commander in Chief wrote:...in times of war the Commander in Chief has the full authority to administratively execute any act the government can do in accord with the Constitution.
The President, or in this case the Commander in Chief of the military since there is no president, has the power to declare war.

Boswell1964, your fears are well founded for those who don't know the history of the nation or about the Corp U.S. It seems like Corp U.S. has a history of not following their own rules and as long as the people remain ignorant, they will allow Corp U.S. to run rampant and do just about whatever they please (e.g. Homeland Security, National I.D. cards, taxes, etc.) And in reality, they have the right to do that since the entities they are controlling were all created by them and/or have contractual relationships with them. Team Law's purpose in life is to wake the people up so we can restore the original jurisdiction President and Congress and stop this madness. Tell as many people as you can about Team Law!
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Postby Aerochu » Thursday March 22nd, 2007 7:08 am MDT

That having been said, Abraham Lincoln (original jurisdiction President) declared Martial Law which I don't think was ever cancelled.
Does a president even have the power to declare martial law? Martial law is never mentioned in the constitution, except for suspension of Habeas Corpus. Suspension of Habeas Corpus is only listed in Article I of the constitution, where it details the powers and limitations of the legislative branch. Powers not granted to the federal government by the constitution are retained by the states. And isn't Ex Parte Milligan on point? Justice Davis delivered this decision for the Supreme Court:
This nation, as experience has proved, cannot always remain at peace, and has no right to expect that it will always have wise and humane rulers, sincerely attached to the principles of the Constitution. Wicked men, ambitious of power, with hatred of liberty and contempt of law, may fill the place once occupied by Washington and Lincoln; and if this right is conceded, and the calamities of war again befall us, the dangers to human liberty are frightful to contemplate. If our fathers had failed to provide for just such a contingency, they would have been false to the trust reposed in them. They knew -- the history of the world told them -- the nation they were founding, be its existence short or long, would be involved in war; how often or how long continued, human foresight could not tell; and that unlimited power, wherever lodged at such a time, was especially hazardous to freemen. For this, and other equally weighty reasons, they secured the inheritance they had fought to maintain, by incorporating in a written constitution the safeguards which time had proved were essential to its preservation. Not one of these safeguards can the President, or Congress, or the Judiciary disturb, except the one concerning the writ of habeas corpus.

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Postby Geibes » Thursday March 22nd, 2007 1:32 pm MDT

Aerochu
See the Historical Outline that Team Law has published as a good place to start your research on your question about the President declaring Martial Law. I also found some possibly relevant stuff on Wikipedia under Executive Orders that could point you towards further research.
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Re: Congressional Power

Postby Admin » Wednesday March 28th, 2007 4:07 am MDT

:h: Everyone:
When discussing such matters it is quite important to remember you are not relating and matter that deals with government; rather, you are relating to a matter that deals with Corp. U.S. and its relations. Geibes got it right when he pointed that out in his comment; however, his relation to the War that started with Abe Lincoln implied that war was continuing to this day, which is not correct. That war officially ended with the surrender of the South to the North. The end of the War did not end the martial law and in that aspect Giebes was again correct. That martial law authority that started with Lincoln’s Conscription Act continues to this day and is renewed every year in accord with the War and Emergency Powers Acts that are still under the operational controls of the Commander in Chief, which is George Bush. That for all intents and purposes makes him a military dictator until that power is removed from him. Though it is true, he is limited to the authority that can be either constitutionally exercised by government or contractually secured, he is not much limited in any financial way because under the Bretton Woods Agreement he has the control over the governors and general managers of the world banking system. Clinton proved that when Congress said that he could not give 36 million dollars to Mexico and he simply said fine and ordered the IMF to provide the funds. Thus, the IMF executed their executive authority over the Treasury of the United States and it provided the funds. There was nothing Congress could lawfully do to stop him.

Again, it is important to remember what you are dealing with here. It is not the government of the United States of America, rather it is the private foreign corporation we call Corp. U.S. To understand the relationships involved you must follow the Standard for Review.

The Iraq War is a war that was authorized by Corp. U.S.’ Congress, though the causes it was authorized for were falsified before Congress and they have since acknowledged that but the y have not done anything to reverse the position, we expect because to do so would cause them to loose face.

Geibes also got the remedy right on the nose!

The right of passing authority to the President of the United States of America is reserved in the Constitution giving the President the full authority to do anything the Constitution allows the government to do. That martial law authority was passed and we still remain in that condition today. The Supreme Court properly ruled regarding the quoted Ex Parte Milligan case; however, that does not eliminate the privilege of contract that Corp. U.S. rules with today in accord with the peoples willingness to so contract. Thus, the safeguards of the Constitution are not in effect because those safeguards also acknowledge the people’s right to privately contract.

Again, it is not enough to understand what happened, we must remember it and adopt that understanding to the situations at hand. You are not likely dealing with the government of our great country in any way today. Rather, the relations you may have thought were governmental are the result of private contractual relations with Corp. U.S. That is exactly why we presented Myth 22 on our website’s Patriot Mythology page.

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