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Vacating the Government

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Vacating the Government

Postby BClrk » Wednesday June 15th, 2005 7:58 am MDT

Corp US was created in the DC Organic Act of 1871 to do the business of True US. From that date up to 1914, legislators were seated in both Corp US and in True US. What happened in 1914 so they were seated only in Corp US? Was it a bill? An executive order? A procedural change? What actual record exists that documents this change?
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Re: Vacating the Government

Postby Admin » Wednesday June 15th, 2005 10:48 am MDT

:help: Your answer is found both on our website’s historical links and in the WARN newsletter; we repeat it here:

In 1913 the Corp. U.S. amended its constitution with its 17th Amendment, which changed where Senators are elected. This Amendment has several problems if it were to be reviewed as national amendment: First, the Constitution for the United States of America forbids congress from even discussing the matter of where Senators are elected; wherefore, if they wanted to put forth such an amendment the Supreme Court says they would have to first Amend the nations Constitution to allow that, which they did not do. Second, like the Corp. U.S. 16th Amendment their 17th Amendment was not ratified in accord with the Constitution’s requirements. These failures do not preclude Corp. U.S. from adopting their amendment just as they did their 16th Amendment and as they did in their original 1871 Act. Thus when Senators were elected by popular vote, in accord with that amendment, they were elected in the corporate only seat. The result of that was that anytime any matter was brought before congress and one of those newly elected Senators was allowed to participate in the vote, the matter was blatantly only a Corp. U.S. matter having no authority in the original jurisdiction government. The Senate’s vote is required to confirm Electoral College elections of the President of the United States of America, which confirmation did not take place when President Wilson was elected for his second term. Therefore, that original jurisdiction seat was then vacated. Judges appointed from that point forward were appointed with corporate only authority so then moved the Supreme Court—and that was that.

Almost more importantly, in accord with the Bretton Woods Agreement in 1944, Corp. U.S. was quitclaimed to the International Monetary Fund and the private Corp. U.S. became the property of the IMF, which moved control of the nations business matters away from the District of Columbia based Corp. U.S. to the foreign control of the IMF and Great Britain’s Bank of international settlements.

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Re: Vacating the Government

Postby Newbie1 Kenobee » Monday April 9th, 2007 7:42 pm MDT

admin wrote:The Senate’s vote is required to confirm Electoral College elections of the President of the United States of America, which confirmation did not take place when President Wilson was elected for his second term. Therefore, that original jurisdiction seat was then vacated. Judges appointed from that point forward were appointed with corporate only authority so then moved the Supreme Court—and that was that.

What does this say about our current Supreme Court?

Were the appointments to The Supreme Court made by corp US Presidents lawful for the Original Jurisdiction Supreme court or do we now only have a corp US Supreme Court?

I have not seen much mentioned here about the Supreme Court and I'm rather confused as to it's current state of legitimacy.

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Re: Vacating the Government

Postby 1greyfox » Tuesday April 10th, 2007 5:06 am MDT

Hello Newbie 1 Kenobee.
If you look at Admin's quote in your message again you will see that the Supreme Court now has corporate only authority.

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Re: Vacating the Government

Postby Newbie1 Kenobee » Tuesday April 10th, 2007 6:21 pm MDT

I wasn't sure about the statement "so goes the Supreme court". The reason why I asked is because I have my doubts that at any given point in time, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, will consistently vow to uphold the legitimacy of the Original Jurisdiction President.

From Governors Corner:
About two weeks later the Chief of the Joint Chiefs responded, “What Governor Madsen is doing out their in Colorado is legal, lawful and correct; and, if they accomplish what they have set out to do we will recognize that President of The United States of America as the President of The United States of America, Commander in Chief of the military and give them full military support.

Who can say that the Joint Chiefs of Staff in place during the current or future corp administrations will be capable of recognizing the true legitimacy of the Original Jurisdiction President?

What if they decide to turn to the Corporate Supreme Court for a ruling?

What if the the Corp Supreme Court decided to rule against the Original Jurisdiction President and the Joint chiefs accepted that ruling?

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Re: Vacating the Government

Postby Gabo » Tuesday April 10th, 2007 11:29 pm MDT

Newbie1 Kenobee wrote:What if the the Corp Supreme Court decided to rule against the Original Jurisdiction President and the Joint chiefs accepted that ruling?

Then it would have the same effect as if France or Britain's courts ruled that there is no original jurisdiction government.
Both courts are completely outside the jurisdiction of the several states of the Union, and therefore their rulings have no force upon the Union.
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Re: Vacating the Government

Postby Newbie1 Kenobee » Wednesday April 11th, 2007 5:07 pm MDT

If the joint chiefs will not recognize the Original Jurisdiction President, then we have no military support and therefore the Original Jurisdiction goes nowhere.

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Re: Vacating the Government

Postby Geibes » Thursday April 12th, 2007 11:32 am MDT

Newbie1 Kenobee-
Even if it does transpire the way you say, the publicity generated from the case will help to wake up the people of the United States.

However, I agree with Gabo about the jurisdiction. The President of the original jurisdiction is the Commander in Chief whether or not the Corp Supreme Court says so (the Constitution is a document that speaks for itself). If the Joint Chiefs don't respect the law, then they can/will be replaced - I suspect using Quo Warranto or some similar procedure. Sure it may be a long drawn out battle, but again, the people will realize what has been going on and will hopefully wake up.
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Restoring the government

Postby Admin » Friday April 13th, 2007 1:29 pm MDT

:h: Newbie1 Kenobee, et al.:
We acknowledge the reasons why people get caught up in such discussions regarding the future but we find no merit in them. We apologize up front if that bothers anyone but we simply find no value in discussing what may or may not happen in the future if wicked people continue to do what wicked people do. We grant that possibility and note, absolutely nothing can be done about what someone else will, or will not, do in the future.

The only thing we can do is what we can do. We did not get started in this path to save our country because of what someone else will or will not do. Governor Madsen did not run for office because he was trying to get the Joint Chiefs’ support. He ran for office because it was obvious that the office was vacant and at that time, he had no idea of how we could reseat the original jurisdiction President of the United States of America’s seat. He simply felt inspired that he should run for government in the original jurisdiction Colorado State governor’s election. It was the only apparent legal and lawful way we can win our country back. He started campaigning for the office because of that inspiration, not because of what might happen if he did but because of the inspiration and what might happen if he did not.

His study of the law along the campaign trail was what made it apparent that we could reseat our entire country’s original jurisdiction government, so he added that to his campaign. For the first two years in office he experienced all kinds of opposition for just about everything except his election to the original jurisdiction State Governor's seat—to that there was never any contest from any source. He was then subpoenaed to testify as Governor in several court cases, other cases reviewed his standing as governor and ultimately the Joint Chiefs made their response to the issue as it was raised in the National Security Counsel. Still, all of what has happened is the result of one man learning the law and standing up. He has since dedicated his life to helping other people learn for themselves the law, its language and history; so we can stand together in lawful action to preserve our Constitutional Republic. That is what this work is all about.

When we read discussions like this topical thread provides to this point we acknowledge that people have concerns over our future and that the cause of those concerns are warranted, but we also know that such discussions usually have the effect of causing people to balk on what they should do, which is the only thing Team Law has ever asked anyone to do, and that is to study and learn our history and our law for yourselves and learn how to apply them—then apply what you learn. That is exactly why Team Law does not do your work for you we simply point you at it and stand by willing to help all of the way.

If you have doubts as to what will happen in the future, you can stand by and do nothing and get what you already have as it continues to get worse and loose all of your rights, privileges, immunities and freedom; or,

You can get animated and involved with those that advocate an armed rebellion against “the government”, like so many protestors do; or,

You can do what Team Law is doing, that is learn our history, the law and how to apply it, then apply it to save our country.

The bottom line, our country will not be saved in ignorance. It will not be saved in war. It will not be saved by the Corp. U.S. governance powers that are currently at war with the people of our country (in accord with their own statutory declarations). The only way it will be saved is if the people awaken and do what they are already required to do but have not done—learn the law and apply it. That is the substance this country was formed on. All righteous and or honorable people already know it is right and proper to obey, honor and sustain the law. That is why we ask the question,
“How can you obey, or honor or sustain the law or even comply with it if you do not know what the law is?”

The obvious answer is you cannot.

Our original jurisdiction government was founded of, by and for the people. It is not possible for the people to control the government as it was intended if the people sit back and fail in their responsibility to learn the law and apply it to control the government. A righteous people cannot allow themselves to be ignorant of the law. Just go and read Myth 22 if you do not understand how far we have fallen as a people and then tell me that we are a righteous people worthy of the support our Father in Heaven has offered us if we will but follow His way. His way requires us to learn the law and apply it.

The King of Kings even promises us that if we will repent and get righteous, He will fight our battles for us. Thus, if you are truly concerned over what the Supreme Court or the Joint Chiefs will do, then get righteous and learn the law so that you can apply it and then, you will be on the way to receiving the kind of support promised to righteous people. History proves that righteous nations and righteous people have support from on high. We need that support.

When Mr. Madsen ran for governor, he did it because he was inspired to do it, not for any other reason. He had been jailed unlawfully by a corrupt judge. They would not feed him so he fasted and prayed. The question he was praying about when he got that inspiration was, “What can we do to save ourselves, our families and our country from this tyranny?” The answer he got was, “You won’t run for President so run for Governor.” He did it and was elected and served a full term, then he was appointed by Colorado’s Governor to serve in the original jurisdiction United States of America Senate. He remains in that service to this day. We consider much of what has happened since that time as miraculous, like the opinion of the Joint Chiefs and the courts that recognized that service. We also know that it only happened because one man stood up and started studying the law and applying it.

Team Law asks no more of any other person; and Team Law will not do your work for you; but, if you want to save our country and your family and preserve their liberty then there is only one way to do that and that way is you must get righteous and do all you can to learn the law and how to lawfully apply it, then:
Don’t quit.

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